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- | + | Donald Trump railed against Mike Pence, calling him a 'wimp' and 'the p- word' in a heated phone call on the morning of January 6th, aides recalled as Ivanka Trump said she had never seen her father speak to his vice president like that.<br>In Thursday's hearing, the committee investigating the January 6th insurrection sought to show the immense pressure Pence was under from the president and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential.<br>The panel played a video montage of testimony from witnesses describing Trump's call on the morning of January 6 to Pence.<br>Trump's body man Nick Luna said Trump called Pence 'a wimp' during that conversation and Ivanka Trump's chief of staff Julie Radford said Trump used 'the p-word' when he talked to Pence.<br>The montage also included a bite from Ivanka Trump's closed-door testimony, where she described being in the Oval Office when Trump called Pence.<br>'The conversation was pretty heated,' Ivanka Trump said of the call. 'It was a different tone than I heard him take with the Vice President before.' <br> 'The conversation was pretty heated,' Ivanka Trump said of her father's call the morning of January 6th with Mike Pence. 'It was a different tone than I heard him take with the Vice President before'<br> Attorney John Eastman (left), in an email, asked Rudy Giuliani (right) to put him on the list for a presidential pardon; Eastman claimed Pence had the power to turn over the election to the House<br> <br> Multiple officials on Thursday testified that Trump's push to get Pence to overturn the election results was 'illegal' and that then vice president withstood the pressure and didn't cave.<br>Thursday's hearing delved deep into constitutional law and the role of the vice president in overseeing the certification of the electoral college.<br>Trump and his supporters argued Pence could reject those results in his role as president of the . <br>Pence and his legal team argued his role was ceremonial as outlined in the 12th amendment, which says: 'The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.' <br>A central figure in Trump's efforts was attorney John Eastman, who outlined a scenario in which Pence would disregard seven states' Electoral College votes to throw the election back to the House.<br>Pence's lawyers concluded such a move would be illegal and possibly lead to violence in the streets. <br>The panel on Thursday played video of Eastman's testimony to them, where he pleaded the fifth amendment repeatedly. <br>Democratic Rep. Pete Aguilar, who led Thursday's hearing, said Eastman pleaded the fifth a 100 times during his time with the committe.<br>The panel also revealed an email from Eastman to Rudy Giuliani, who was Trump's personal attorney, where he asked to be put on a list for a presidential pardon. <br>'I've decided that I should be on the pardon list, if that is still in the works,' he wrote. <br>In Thursday's hearing, the panel showed how Trump, Eastman and others essentially waged war on Pence to try and get him to overturn the election. <br>Retired U.S. Appeals Court Judge J. Michael Luttig, who was an informal adviser to Pence during that time, spoke slowly about the vice president's role but his words carried weight. Luttig is widely respected among conservatives for his interpretation of the consitution while he sat on the federal bench. <br>Luttig testified that if the then-vice president had followed Trump's orders then 'that declaration of Donald Trump as the next president would have plunged America into what I believe, would have been tantamount to a revolution within a Constitutional crisis.' <br>The committee showed the various theories being banded about by Trump and his supporters to try and overthrow Joe Biden's victory, including have Pence recognize slates of alternative state electors who would support Trump instead of Biden and having Pence reject the results from seven states in order to send the election back to the House.<br>Luttig called the theories 'constitutional mischief.'<br> Retired U.S. Appeals Court Judge J. Michael Luttig, who was an informal adviser to Pence during that time, testified that if Pence had followed Trump's orders it 'would have plunged America into what I believe, would have been tantamount to a revolution within a Constitutional crisis'<br> Donald Trump and his supporters were pressuring Mike Pence to overturn the election results despite being told it was 'illegal' and Pence himself told Trump he did not have such power<br> An image of former President Donald Trump and his family is displayed during the third hearing of the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol <br> The panel played clips of Trump's speech on January 6th pushing Pence to 'come through for us' and showed testimony from officials in Trump's White House saying Pence was being pushed to throw out the electoral results - even though he had told Trump he didn't have the constitutional power to do so.<br>Democratic Rep. Pete Aguilar said the original speech text 'included no mention of the VP and the president revised it to include [https://www.fool.com/search/solr.aspx?q=criticism criticism] of the VP and then ad-libbed.' <br>The panel also showed clips of MAGA supporters marching on the Capitol on January 6th. One threatened to drag politicians through the streets because Pence 'caved.' Others chanted: 'Bring out Pence!' And others yelled: 'Hang Mike Pence!'<br>Aguilar revealed that on January 6th, as Secret Service moved Pence from his office by the Senate floor to a more secure location in the Capitol, there was only about 40 feet between the vice president and the rioters.<br>''Approximately 40 feet. That's all there was: 40 feet between the vice president and mob,' he said. <br>He also revealed the Proud Boys wanted to kill Pence. <br>The Democratic Congressman from California noteed that in a recent court filing by the Department of Justice 'explains that a confidential informant from the Proud Boys told the FBI, the proud boys would have killed Mike Pence, if given the chance.'<br>The rioter, who is cooperating with federal investigators and is called W1 in court documents, said the Proud Boys would have killed 'anyone they got their hands on, they would have killed, including Nancy Pelosi.'<br>Both Marc Short, Pence's former chief of staff, and Greg Jacob, Pence's legal counsel, testified that Pence personally told Trump he did not have the authority to overturn the results of the electoral college well ahead of January 6th.<br>Short, in video testimony played by the committee, said there were 'many times' Pence personally told Trump he could not make such a move.<br>Jacob described a meeting he attended in the Oval Office between Trump and Pence where the then-vice president 'never budged' from his stance that he could not consitutionally overturn the election.<br>The committee focused on two theories being pushed by Trump supporters.<br>One theory came from Kenneth Chesebro, an attorney advising Trump's campaign, who sent a memo to Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani.<br>The 'Chesebro memo' - as it became known - suggested that a handful of states that Biden won should present a set of 'alternative electors.' Pence should then recognize those alternative electors, who would support Trump.<br>Chesebro argued the Pence could say that 'he, and he alone, is charged with the constitutional responsibility not just to open the votes, but to count them — including making judgments about what to do if there are conflicting votes.'<br>Pence's team had rejected that idea.<br>Luttig testified that 'there was no support whatsoever in either the Constitution of the United States nor the laws of the United States for the vice president frankly ever to count alternative electoral slates from the states that had not been officially certified.'<br> Greg Jacob, Pence's legal counsel, testified that Pence personally told Trump he did not have the authority to overturn the results of the electoral college<br> Marc Short, Pence's former chief of staff, said in video testimony that Pence told Donald Trump he could not over turn the election<br> Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) Officer Michael Fanone, Metropolitan police department officer Daniel Hodges and U.S. Capitol Police Officer Pfc. Harry Dunn attend Thursday's hearing at the Capitol<br> Another theory came from attorney John Eastman. <br>His memo outlined a scenario in which Pence would disregard seven states' Electoral College votes - thus ensuring no candidate received the 270 Electoral College votes required to be declared the winner. <br>The election would then be decided by the House. <br>Each state delegation would then have had one vote to cast for president, and since Republicans controlled 26 state delegations, a majority could have voted for Trump to win the election. <br>Eastman pleaded the fifth amendment a 100 times during his earlier testimony to the panel, the committee said.<br>The panel also revealed an email from Eastman to Rudy Giuliani, where he asked to be put on a list for a presidential pardon. <br>'I've decided that I should be on the pardon list, if that is still in the works,' he wrote. <br>Jacob was with Pence inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, arguing with Eastman by email during the riot.<br>'The 'siege' is because YOU and your boss did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way so that the American people can see for themselves what happened,' Eastman said in an email to Jacob, according to the Los Angeles Times.<br>After the riot ended, Eastman again emailed Jacob to say Pence should still send the election back to the states rather than certifying it, based on what he called a 'relatively minor violation' of the procedural law.<br>Instead Pence returned to the House floor to certify Biden's victory.<br>Jacob noted the consitutition 'is unambiguous that the Vice President does not have the authority to reject electors. there is no suggestion of any kind, that it does. There is no mention of rejecting or objecting to electors anywhere in the 12th amendment.'<br>Jacob said Pence's team looked at the constitution, legal precedent and American history when making their determination about Pence's role in the certification of the election.<br>'No vice president in 230 years of history had ever claimed to have that kind of authority - hadn't claimed authority to reject electoral votes, had not claimed authority to return electoral votes back to the States in the entire history of the United States. Not once had a joint session ever returned electoral votes back to the States to be counted,' he noted.<br>He also pointed out that Al Gore oversaw the certification of results for the 2020 election, where Gore was defeated by George W. Bush after a long legal battle over Flordia's votes. He noted Gore did not demand the Florida results be overturned or for the election to be sent back to that state.<br>And there were concerns there would be a violence in the streets if Pence tried to overturn the results.<br>Former White House attorney Eric Herschmann, in his video testimony, recalled he said to Eastman: 'Are you out of your effing mind?'<br>'I said, you're gonna turn around and tell 78 plus million people in this country that your theory is this is how you're going to invalidate their votes because you think election was stolen,' he noted. 'They're not going to tolerate that. You're going to cause riots in the streets.'<br>He said Eastman responded with a shrug and said: 'There's been violence in the history of our country to protect the democracy or protect the Republic.'<br>Thursday's hearing from the January 6th committee focused on Trump's efforts to pressure Pence to refuse to count and certify the electoral count.<br> MAGA supporters were heard yelling 'Hang Mike Pence' as they marched on the Capitol on January 6th - a noose was errected outside the building <br> The third January 6 hearing on Thursday will focus on Donald Trump's pressure campaign to get Vice President Mike Pence to stop Congress from certifying the 2020 presidential election results. Pictured: Pence sits with daughter, Charlotte (left), and brother, Greg, as his wife, Karen (right), draws the curtains in the ceremonial room off the Senate floor where he was evacuated to on January 6, 2021, as Trump supporters attacked U.S. Capitol<br> Mike Pence, after the insurrection, [http://gebzemeydan.xyz/ bakırköy escort] returned to the Capitol to oversee the certification of Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 election <br> RELATED ARTICLES <br><br><br><br>Share this article<br>Share<br><br><br>A central figure in the hearing was attorney John Eastman, who pushed the theory Pence, in his role as vice president, could block the certification of 's victory. <br>Eastman, who once served as clerk for Clarence Thomas at the Supreme Court, outlined scenarios for denying Biden the presidency in legal memos and in an Oval Office meeting on Jan. 4 with Trump and Pence, according to previous reports. <br>In the days leading up to the January 6th certification, Trump delivered a string of tweets demanding that Pence use his position to prevent Congress certifying his election defeat to Joe Biden.<br>Pence had already told the president he had no such power.<br>Eastman, however, wrote a memo arguing Pence could overthrow the election results when he oversaw the certification of the electoral college count on January 6th.<br>And Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, emailed with Eastman about the matter, reported on Wednesday.<br>Eastman had told Jacob, Penc<br><br><br><br><br><br>DM.later('bundle', function(){<br>DM.has('external-source-links', 'externalLinkTracker');<br>}); |